Have you been planning to start your own path?
Millions of people right now are feeling lost when considering which life path to take. These people are unaware of how to go about advancing in their careers or personal lives. The same could have been said about Jordan, who at 18 years old, had no idea what the future held. He broke the mold, deciding he wanted to do something he loves instead of worrying about what job paid the best. Now, at 21 years old, he's a widely popular podcaster, author, and business marketer. He took charge of his life and you can too.
Jordan Paris shares inspiring stories and valuable lessons in marketing, health, psychology, communication, and more by talking with other influential thought leaders and public figures on his podcast Growth Mindset University. Growth Mindset University is where leaders learn how they can succeed in the progressive new age of business and life.
“It wasn’t until I was 18 that I would wake up and rediscover who I was. I decided to take control of my life, becoming a creator rather than a victim. Most importantly, I put the pen back in my hand that I could use to author my own story. Society and circumstance were no longer my co-authors.” – Jordan
Jordan founded The WordPress Rocketeer, where he focused on developing websites to launch his client's careers. He is now a full-time podcast marketer and content producer.
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Welcome to the thoughtful entrepreneur show, I'm Josh Elledge, founder and CEO of up my influence.com, where we turn entrepreneurs into media celebrities, grow their authority, and help them build partnerships with top influencers. So we believe that every person has a unique message that can positively impact the world, even you stick around to the end of this show, where I'll share info on how you could be our next guest, three times a week, five to 15 minutes each learn from successful business owners and professionals. It's time to get inspired. Let's go. Right, Jordan Paris, you are a podcaster. You are an author. And you've established quite a name for yourself because you're you're a young guy 21. And you as a podcaster have attracted some pretty big names. And I think that that has caught the attention. A lot of other marketers and podcasters are like Jordan, how are you getting all these amazing guests. So first off, I was a thank you so much for joining us. And I want to get right into your your, your secret to podcasting. And I should also point out Jordan that you do have a podcast University. We'll talk about that in just a minute as well. But first off, thank you. And please tell us your kind of your podcasting journey and your podcasting story.
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Just the pleasures mine I mean story. Like, you know, I don't people always ask me like how when why'd you start the podcast? I have no clue. There was no moment. It All I know is that the first episode came out on April 17 of 2018. And the only reason I know that's because that's a Spotify says happened. If there was no date attached to the episode I have no idea is like I was sleepwalking. Which, you know, which wouldn't be too far fetched because you listen to the episodes in the beginning, they were horrible. I was sleep. I it's not Farfetch as sleepwalking through it. scaled up along the way, started growing as I was going and get these great guests. And you know what's behind that it's really the difference between playing the long game which I play and the short game. Okay, yes, long game. There's a couple of principles there. It's digging the well before you're thirsty, as in building the rapport before you have to go in for an ask. Right? That's what that translates to. And the treat everyone like they get your cover story on Forbes magazine, the metaphorical Forbes magazine. And those have served me well. Like every day, I get things coming back to me from seeds that I planted months ago, seeds I planted in 28. And it's coming back to me and it just compounding and compounding. And the amount of people that have changed my life. helping me out this year in 2019 is astonishing. And it's because of that. And I you know, I wake up to email introductions to Dan lock and his team they want they want Dan on my podcast and I'm like, Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll, I'll do it. Like, like, great. You know, and I just I, two hours ago, I got introduced to a billionaire, like, okay, it's cool. And so people, so many people are happily helping me out working for me behind the scenes just want to help because of those principles that that I had talked about, and just forming a very genuine connection. And I you know, I used to I'm a recovering awkward person is my friend Vanessa van Edwards would say and, you know, I've, I've studied human nature, the human behavior and just the science of people. And because, because it came from a place of pain, and now I, I really pride myself on being able to connect with people like you, Josh. And it's, it's a lot of fun. I'm just being myself. And that's it.
4:04
So Jordan, would you say that? So some people might look from the outside in and say, well, you just seem lucky. You know, of course, I think we all have some, I most of us understand how luck really works. And that's where, you know, preparation meets opportunity. And I think a lot of times if you study quote unquote, lucky people, lucky people just they put lots of asks out there, they're there. They're constantly serving other people. They're open to new ideas, and they're open to how can I, you know, what can I What else can I be doing to make someone else's life better, and no matter who it is, and then, you know, when it comes to the opportunity, like let's say, for example, it's a you know, one of your high profile guests, I know you and I both know, Dennis, you know, what, how did that relationship initiate For example,
4:57
I would love to tell you how that relationship initiated was on one of my favorite podcasts. Jeremy Ryan slates, create your own life. Yeah, Jay, Jamie's great, Jeremy's a good guy. So great. I love talking to him like and I just like he was a guest on my show. And that's how our relationship started. Like, he's a great friend, like whole FaceTime me, he'll call me and like, will taxed. And it's really a great relationship that I have with Jeremy, I love him and I, and I can't wait to shake his hand in, in real life. And
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meet Jeremy Initially,
5:31
I reached out to him to be on my show.
5:33
Ah, that's the wonderful thing about having a platform is you can initiate in the relationship with instant like, let me just like we were talking about Bob Burg go giver before this interview started, is just, you know, don't worry about what you want from them just, you know, find some way to give, give them something, make them look great. And you know, what, it turns into a relationship. And what you mentioned, which I really love, is that these, you know, where, where you're actually getting the value, quote, unquote, back, if you want to call it that is it might be months later, years later, it's about sowing seeds. Admire, let I know, through Dennis Dennis connected to play Degrees of Separation here. But my last show I really, really loved, he was talking about, you know, kind of, you know, being in this Echo, you know, it's like, you know, all the good stuff that you're experiencing is based on the work that you are doing, generally, you know, like, three, four or five months back. And so, you know, whatever you're doing today, you're probably not going to experience all of the benefit of that, or at least, you know, again, three, four or five months, and you shouldn't expect it, feeling it sounds like that's what you're feeling here.
6:54
That's exactly what I'm feeling. And you know, for, for an example, like continuing on the story, you'll see this in action. Like, Jeremy messaged me a couple of months down the line is like, I wasn't expecting it is he's like, Hey, man, I'd love to have you on the show. Like, let's how's your schedule, look for blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, okay, you know, great. And it came out it he actually, something must opened up in the schedule, because I know he's a very prepared podcaster. And has people scheduled out for a long time, but but our episode came out two days after. And, and it was the perfect, perfect timing. Because Dennis heard it that day. I was, it was a Friday, Dennis just happened to be in Naples, Florida. He's never there. Dennis is never in Naples for a small town. He would just happen to be there that Saturday, and Sunday, and he hits me up Saturday morning at like, 10:10am while I'm on some other interview. And he's like, Hey, I'm in Naples. Come meet me. Like, let's let's record videos. And and I had never, we'd never had a previous messaging history. We'd never commented on each other's posts. He just knew me, I guess and had the presence of mind to an awareness to be like, Oh, yeah, I I've been seeing Jordans videos. He lives in, I checked his profile. Once I saw that Fort Myers, Florida, I'll hit him up. And that day was was great. We, we spent a long time together, we spent 12 hours together that day. And by the time I left, I had a completely new business plan mapped out as you know, Dennis does very, he creates process driven businesses. I had that going for me. And he actually bought me an iPhone access max two.
8:57
Yeah, I saw that in your post. That's crazy.
8:58
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
9:01
That's one way to get your attention and saying, Listen to what I'm about to teach you. All right, right. dollar phone.
9:11
1330. But it was, yeah, it was because I had a fear of getting in front of camera. And he really believed in me that if I got in front of the camera and started recording one minute videos that I would take off, he said and blow up and and I was like, Yeah, right, you know, I'm gonna suck at this and whatever. And fast forward a couple of months here. And it's happened. Like it. I can't imagine, you know, without my without my videos all the time. I mean, it's, it's a it's like a rocket ship right now because of Dennis. And that investment that he made in me. And I had to hold up my end of the bargain, because because I, he that was the deal. That was the deal. Like, he bought me that I had to create videos. So Otherwise, I'd be really embarrassed and ashamed of myself. So
10:02
what is your one piece of advice that you would give to people that are considering starting a podcast? Or maybe they are podcasting? And they're like, Am I doing this? Right? Like, I don't know, I don't really feel like I'm getting any momentum here. Like, what would you say to that person?
10:20
Yeah, there's so many things that I wish I knew when I started podcasting, so many things that I had to figure out along the way, it took me months to figure out I'm still figuring out things. And like, there's just so many unknown variables when it comes to podcasting. Like whether you want to start your show or take it to the next level. And it just becomes a little bit stressful and it can be overwhelming. And I've actually, you know, created this, this blog post, it's just podcast University, you know, you go to Jordan Paris comm slash PU, and it literally solves for all the unknown variables of podcasting. You know, like a, like a math equation. You Bye, you don't have to do the equation. It's solved for you like you got it there. So it's there it is. It's it's all there. And I always push people and recommend people to that and people love it and it helps a lot of people and met people messaged me like I just just started my podcasters launched it today, Jordan and, and I'm happy to help in that way. It's great.
11:20
Yeah. What's your advice for getting really great guests.
11:25
Digging them up a very thirsty and building rapport before you go in for the Ask and you know, playing that long game and treating everyone like Mitch covers Jennifer's magazine and because, you know, half of my of my guests are me being introduced, like, you know, my, my interview in front of a live audience in New York City with James out sicher? Josh, I didn't do a single thing to get that and do anything. Okay. It was I had no part in it. Like, it just fell into my lap. Again from Jeremy's show someone who listened to it, yes. Perfect time. I mean, just the way he put that out, like I, my life would be completely different today, if he decided to put it up two weeks later. Very different. just crazy how things work. Yeah. And so, you know, I like getting getting great guests like, so yeah, a lot of them are introductions. You know, so just planting that seed as, as you said, and but then, you know, over over the over the months, I've crafted a very I hate to call it template, but a email template, so to say and, and, and it's, you know, it's of course, it's highly personalized for each person. But there's a general general guidelines. And, you know, it's not in podcast University, but it is going to be in my new book that is pretty much like a textbook, slash story book on podcasting. It's like the textbook of podcasting, but it's not your average textbook. It's like, there's, there's like, cool, there's like, stories we've been, you know, like, it's so it's an entertaining textbook, like, you know, like, imagine if school had that, you know, it'd be cool. And so I'm, I'm creating what I've always wanted, and it's going to be, it's gonna be in that book, and my follow ups are going to be in there, you know, no, no release date yet. And nothing. I can set it out yet, but you'll just have to keep up with me if you really are interested in that. Because it's a lot to say here and I can't recite it from memory. But I would look up something just like you know, if you want a bare bones thing, look up Tim Ferriss, Alex, Ben IN email template, and I'm pretty sure that something that something's going to come up. That's very, very helpful. So you can get a response.
13:41
You said Tim Ferriss,
13:43
and then Alex benign. NBANAYAN. Uh huh.
13:49
Yeah. Oh, but now I am I okay, Tim. So I'm googling Tim Ferriss. Alex. But now IN podcast,
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no email, Tim Ferriss explanation, email template. email template. Okay, cool. I pretty sure so it'll come up. I think I tried it once. But I yeah, look at that. Is there yet something?
14:11
Yeah, yep. Cool. So yeah.
14:14
So it's a mindset. I don't know exactly what you found there. But it's like, I have a derivative of that. And it's an i, i fine tuned it so much over over a long period of time. And of course, now I have my follow ups. The fortune is in the follow up, Josh, you know that? Yeah.
14:31
Yeah.
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Yeah, time. And so my, I've got a couple of series of follow ups that aren't like, annoying. And, and yeah, that's get the job done.
14:43
Yeah, my without my influence. I mean, that's so our job is to turn entrepreneurs into media celebrities. And that's, and that's, that's really what separates? Why would you outsource this to somebody like us? Because we just we have no fear of rejection. I mean, we like we know, we know that. It's going to take multiple, hey, hey, hey, you know, kind of reaching out to whoever it is to make that connection. It just takes several times. So I'm with you. And and that's really most people say, Oh, I don't want to email them again, because I don't want to bother them. And as long as you're being professional, respectful, and I would I would I call like mutual respect, professional respect. You won't bother people. I mean, if they you are, then they'll they'll either block you or, you know, or tell you to buzz off. And so
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I'm thankful to have not had that.
15:37
Yeah, well, you know, should let people know. I mean, you're being forthright and you know, you're being authentic. And so, you know, generally you're not going to get hate mail back. If you're forthright and authentic and respectful with people, you know, it's just never going to happen. Yeah. So why shouldn't say never, but mostly Not going to happen? So Jordan, Paris, thank you so much for joining us. You're doing a lot of great stuff. You got a great book out. You've got a great podcast with a lot of great guests. You definitely have a lot of momentum behind what you're doing. You got a great Instagram feed, you got some great videos, a producing a lot of great content. And all of this is available at Jordan harris.com. Jordan, thanks for joining us.
16:17
Absolutely, Josh. It's been a pleasure, love it.
16:24
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