1875 – Empower your Business with Barry LaBov

In this episode of the Thoughtful Entrepreneur, your host Josh Elledge speaks with the Owner of LABOV, Barry LaBov.

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Barry, the owner of Labov and Beyond, has established himself in the competitive marketing communications industry. His journey to success involved overcoming numerous challenges and achieving significant milestones, making his story compelling for anyone interested in the field.

Barry emphasized the importance of creating messages that not only reach but also resonate with audiences. He highlighted the psychological triggers that drive people to take action and the ways in which brands can form authentic connections with their customers.

Barry also outlined the key factors that contribute to a brand's longevity, including consistent messaging and the ability to adapt. He provided practical advice for business owners looking to strengthen their brand's market presence.

Barry shared his predictions for future marketing strategies, offering a valuable perspective for those aiming to keep their marketing efforts relevant in the years ahead.

Key Points from the Episode:

  • The Thoughtful Entrepreneur Show
  • Labov and Beyond Marketing Communications
  • Marketing strategies and communications
  • Entrepreneurship
  • Business growth
  • Thoughtful approaches to business
  • Insights and advice for entrepreneurs
  • Success stories
  • Tips for effective marketing and communication

About Barry LaBov:

Barry LaBov is a distinguished figure in the entrepreneurial and marketing sphere, celebrated for his dual achievements as a two-time Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year and an inductee into the Entrepreneur Hall of Fame. His expertise extends beyond accolades, as he is a recognized author, speaker, and brand strategist focusing on channel engagement. As the visionary founder, President, and CEO of LABOV Marketing, Communications and Training, LaBov leads a full-service agency adept at bolstering corporations with dealer/distributor or sales channel networks, serving prestigious national and international clients across diverse sectors such as automotive, recreational products, and premium spirits.

In addition to his entrepreneurial endeavors, LaBov is a prolific writer and thought leader in the business community. He has authored or co-authored over a dozen business books and numerous articles on pivotal topics like brand re-engineering, customer loyalty, and employee engagement. His latest work, “The Power of Differentiation,” promises to equip leaders with the insights to distinguish their brands and products in competitive markets. LaBov's expertise is regularly sought by major media outlets, including CNBC and Fox Business, where he shares his insights on brand strategy and market differentiation, further solidifying his position as an influential figure in marketing and communication.

About LABOV:

LABOV Marketing, Communications and Training excel in a unique niche, assisting companies operating through dealer or distributor networks. Recognizing the crucial role of belief and engagement in a brand's success, LABOV is dedicated to training and inspiring its clients' sales networks. This commitment has led LABOV to collaborate with some of the most prestigious names in the automotive, luxury, and B2B manufacturing sectors, significantly elevating their brands, products, and personnel.

With a legacy spanning over thirty years, LABOV has amassed extensive experience in launching brands and products, engaging with dealer networks and customers, providing leadership advice, and crafting sales channel strategies, among other services. This entrepreneurial firm starts with a deep understanding of its clients' business needs, formulating strategy and executing solutions to address branding, sales, and training challenges effectively. LABOV's approach is tailored to meet the needs of corporations with multiple locations, serving both business-to-business and consumer-facing entities through dealers, distributors, or representatives.

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13:58 – “We discover the magic, and we will help the leaders of companies actually feel more fulfilled in their life because they're fulfilling the lives of their people and customers.”

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Josh (00:00:04) - Hey there, thoughtful listener. Would you like consistent and predictable sales activity with no spam and no ads? I'll teach you step by step how to do this, particularly if you're an agency owner, consultant, coach, or B2B service provider. What I teach has worked for me for more than 15 years and has helped me create more than $10 million in revenue. Just head to up my influence. Com and watch my free class on how to create endless high ticket sales appointments. You can even chat with me live and I'll see and reply to your messages. Also, don't forget the thoughtful entrepreneur is always looking for guests. Go to up my influence. Com and click on podcast. We'd love to have you. With us right now, Barry, LaBov, Barry, you are the owner of LaBov and Beyond Marketing Communications. Your website is Barry, thank you so much for joining us.

Barry (00:01:09) - Thank you. Josh, I'm a big fan of you and the team there. So I'm very proud to join you today.

Josh (00:01:15) - Well, kind of you to say, Barry, tell me a little bit about the work you do, who you serve.

Barry (00:01:21) - My company is located in Fort Wayne, Indiana, but we have offices in Arizona and Dallas. And what we do is we are a marketing and training company. Our focus is on one word differentiation. And what we do is we help companies, generally larger companies discover, not create, discover the magic that they have at that company to do two things. Josh. Number one, of course, increase sales and market share. So of course, but just as important, to win the hearts and minds of their employees by sharing what that difference is and celebrating it, giving the employees significance and meaning.

Josh (00:02:05) - Yeah, I can see where this would be valuable. And I'll have you kind of filled this in, but I'm thinking, you know, if I'm a team member and I'm working with a company and someone asks me about my work, I. And if I were to answer just like, well, you know, I do SEO and I'm with an SEO agency and we're kind of like all the rest.

Josh (00:02:24) - It does. It doesn't feel very exciting to say that like that. Whereas if we say, well, we are the best in the world at our very particular audience who we work with, what we do, nobody in the planet does what we do like we do it that does, that makes like as if I'm a team member in that kind of environment. I do feel like it's a little bit more special, like it. At the very least, it matters a little bit more.

Barry (00:02:48) - You're exactly right. And here's what's interesting. Today, the world wants most companies to become commodities. They want you to just be like everyone else. They want to have you reduce what makes you unique and lower your price. And when you do that, all of a sudden there's nothing special. There's no reason for a customer to choose you. What also happens, and we see this every day, is that it's very difficult to retain employees. It's very difficult to hire employees. And in many cases, companies are frustrated that the employees don't care.

Barry (00:03:23) - They're not giving their best. Well, it's all very simple. If we as leaders and this is what my company helps our clients do, if we as leaders are able to identify one, two, three things that we're doing that are different, that are significant, that have a distinctiveness, and we celebrate it with our employees, well, we're more likely to retain them. And they're more likely to care about what they do. And oh, by the way, that will help sales and that will help profit.

Josh (00:03:55) - Well, if someone is, let's say they're a founder and they're in the leadership, and they are wondering, Are we differentiated, how might one gauge their uniqueness in the market?

Barry (00:04:10) - That's a great question. And one of the things that's really interesting is my company gets to work with wonderful companies that are sometimes over 100. One of them is 200 years old, but they're sometimes started by families, started by brilliant engineers. And you know what happens, Josh? They're too close to what they're doing to see the magic in it.

Barry (00:04:31) - They're too close. So we help them identify that. We send in a team. We call that our technical immersion group. They go in and they identify in a manufacturing plant or a service company. What are those unique differentiators now for those out there who say, well, yeah, I can't afford to go hire a company to do it, then do your best to walk through your facility, look at what you're doing that could be potentially different. And also talk to your customers as to, okay, why do you work with us and learn? And I really urge all listening here because you have a great audience. I urge them to identify the one or 2 or 3 things and test it with the customers. Test it with your employees. Do you really think this is unique? And if so, I really want you to magnify that, make it bigger, share that message. And again, as I said earlier, celebrate it with employees. If you have dealers, with the dealers, suppliers and of course with customers.

Josh (00:05:39) - This is really cool. How might this look when you say share it? what are some ways that this might look, you know, culturally in our meetings and our environment, you know, what are some things that we can do to really communicate that differentiation internally. And then I'll talk about externally next.

Barry (00:05:57) - No, that's that's fantastic. Yes. What we recommend with clients is you discover that differentiation, let's say you name it before you promote it to the outside world. You bring your people in. Now you can have three people in your company, or you could have 30,000 people. You bring them in, you share this. You celebrate it. Meaning you talk about why that is important and the role that each person plays in delivering that to our customers. That's how you do it internally. And the other thing we always share is that, yes, that's a formal meeting, but on a daily basis, leaders must remind everybody as to the purpose of what our company is doing and why it has significance, because that gives significance to our people.

Josh (00:06:49) - Yeah. So more than just an inspirational poster on the wall. Yeah. Like, you know, I guess if they hear it like, you know, I think it's like the same thing, like when we set culture, when we establish our values, this is no different. So, you know, it's really important that we as leaders, you know, are quite visible in communicating those values and that our team members hear that in everything that we do. Right. And then that becomes the lens like to decision making or strategy or problem solving or, you know, could be even like a, you know, an HR conversation. You know, we think about, you know, well where our values and I love that lens. And I think the same thing can be done when we think about, you know, our uniqueness as it applies to our values as well.

Barry (00:07:38) - You're absolutely right. I walked through a, an ambulance factory a few months ago, and I talked to a young worker there, and I said, what did you do? And he said, I plug in wire harnesses, but I'm going to leave and go work at a marshmallow factory for $0.25 more an hour.

Barry (00:07:57) - And so in, and I'll share this quickly. So I talked to the young man and I said, you realize every one of these ambulances going down the line will last about ten years. And during that ten year period of time, there will be 100,000 people who will be saved or protected inside that ambulance. Now, that could be the driver, could be the emergency technicians, it could be the patient and the patient's family. And he looked at me and he said, I thought I was in the wire harness business. I didn't think I was in the safety business. I didn't think I saved lives. We have to realize that that is what our people do. Now. He's more likely to stay because he's actually doing something of value. I believe our employees need to know what they are doing that has meaning, and if so, we leaders have a far better chance of retaining them and they're going to do a far better job.

Josh (00:08:56) - Yeah, what we do in the world matters. I love that, you know, and it's interesting.

Josh (00:09:01) - Like I think for us it could be easy to say, well, you know, who are we? What do we do? We're a podcasting company. Well, no, podcasts are the that's the platform that we use to, you know, make high value connections and help, you know, rid the world. That's I'm just thinking about like, what we do. You know, I could do a better job of reminding and kind of talking about this like we are making the world a better place. We're cutting down on all of the B2B spam out there, and imagine what that world could be like to be able to in anyway. I don't mean to go on and on about my thing, but I might. You already got my brain going on, you know, and how, you know, it could be communicating that a little bit better. Why is it like if we're thinking about, let's say, our objectives and this is kind of an easy connect the dots here for you? I think, you know, because I mentioned thinking about, you know, how we communicate this externally, but we're having this conversation about doing all this work internally first.

Josh (00:09:52) - I think sometimes, you know, you could have like a marketing agency come in and say, okay, well, you know, we're going to kind of paper over, you know, with this great marketing message about who you are and you know, what you stand for. But if that's not accepted or that's not lived internally, I think that's going to lead to, to some, some dysfunction.

Barry (00:10:12) - Yeah, and I love that you brought that up. Josh, we will have companies call us and say, hey, we need a new logo and we need new slogan. We need a new brand. And we go, you know what? 90% of the time we will not recommend a brand new logo and a brand new slogan. What we recommend is you got to step back and learn and discover. And once you discover what you do and it's not 100 different things. And one more thing for your audience, your differentiation does not mean you're superior in those areas. It means you're unique. You're distinctive.

Barry (00:10:47) - It's like a macintosh computer, a mac versus a PC. They're different. They serve different functions. So many companies are out there with brilliant engineers and brilliant leaders. They've done things that are so great and they don't see them. Therefore they're thinking, hey, I need a new brand, I need a new slogan. I gotta get a new website because we're not getting what we should get. And the reality is, the answer is right there with you. Discover your uniqueness celebrated internally, and then tell the world.

Josh (00:11:24) - Now share Barry a bit about how you work with your clients. Like what does that look like? What does the engagement look like? Where do you start and how do you achieve those outcomes together?

Barry (00:11:36) - We have a branding process that is a five step process that when a client reaches out to us, we will consider if all five steps really apply or not. So it's not one size fits all. We will listen first because we want to understand what a customer is looking for. About 30% of the time we think we would be a good fit.

Barry (00:12:01) - The other 70%, we give them guidance, we sometimes send them to somebody else, but all the time is every time we create a connection with them because we are there to help them. So the way it works is they reach out, email, phone, whatever, and just say, hey, can we talk? And we have what we call a jam session. I'm a former musician, so we call the jam session. We talk, we listen, and if there's a good fit, we'll recommend maybe a few steps. Like I said, we may recommend, hey, we ought to come into your facility and spend the day, take a look at what is going on there and and give you some input. Maybe we can help you. That's how it looks.

Josh (00:12:43) - Now your website is By the way, I would point this out Barry your your good follow on LinkedIn. so I would encourage people to search for you personally. Barry LaBov on LinkedIn, but your website is LaBov. Com.

Josh (00:13:01) - who should be reaching out and kind of what do you recommend their next steps? By the way, Barry, before we get to that, can we talk about your book and I'm sorry, I'm just kind of catching this here, but, your book is called The Power of Differentiation. Can you tell me a bit about that?

Barry (00:13:19) - Yes. The book is going to be released in two months on Simon and Schuster. It's all about what we've been talking about today, and it's really a how to guide for the leader to look at his or her business and really take it to the next level of engagement, the next level of inspiration. So it's called the power of differentiation. When you either go to me on LinkedIn or go to our website, reach out, send an email, some sort of a communication, whatever you need, and I'll be happy to put you on the list to let you know when the book comes out, as well as if you want to have a discussion. I'd love it.

Barry (00:13:58) - like I said, we love to make connections and help people. That's that's part of our differentiation. We discover the magic and we will help the leaders of companies actually feel more fulfilled in their life because they're fulfilling the lives of their people and customers. My goal, Josh, is to move 1 million people with this message. That's my goal. So I want to move a million people. And that means however many leaders that takes to have a million of the employees and other folks out there going, you know what? We're doing something that has some value. That's my goal.

Josh (00:14:37) - I love it. Barry, in terms of, you know, again, just just last kind of thing I want to talk about is this external messaging, assuming that, again, everything internal is in alignment with that. Where do you see this practically working? Well, like what does. I mentioned your LinkedIn, but how might our outward marketing and or social media look. Do you see things working well in that in terms of and I'm thinking particularly in terms of tone and language, are the things I'm really curious about.

Josh (00:15:12) - Your take on.

Barry (00:15:14) - What happens, Josh, when you determine and discover what your differentiation is, your external marketing becomes simpler because all of a sudden you're not trying to be what everyone else is. You're not trying to say yes. Where we have a red logo. Okay, well, our competitor does. Oh, we're the cheapest. Oh we're the you stop doing that because all of a sudden your life is simple. You go, wait a minute. Here are three things we need to constantly remind people about. And we are going to focus on those three, not 120 things. We're going to focus on those three things and what we do week after week, whether it's social media, whether it's websites, etc. whatever it is, digital marketing, we focus on those areas and we focus on the people, the customers out there who care about those areas. So what happens is, yes, when you go external after this is determined, it's a simpler life. All of a sudden you're going, you know, we are not the simplest, we are not the cheapest.

Barry (00:16:19) - But what we are is we have the most, let's say, safety. We have the highest safety focus of anyone in our industry. We have the highest level of engineering in this particular area of this product. And all of a sudden your life is simpler. So that's what it does. It simplifies and magnifies at the same time.

Josh (00:16:42) - You work with clients like Audi? the Macallan, Rev, Hyundai, Harley Davidson. Who else should be reaching out? And again, you know, they're listening to our conversation. What do they do next?

Barry (00:16:54) - Anybody that would like to just discuss this or get some feedback, reach out to me, because that's part of what we're doing. We're trying to change the lives of a million people. We work with some of those very large companies. You mentioned we work with Betz Components out of Warren, Pennsylvania. It's a family business. There are some of the most wonderful, hard working genius engineers on Earth. We work with bats. They're great. So we work from anybody from the family business all the way to Harley Davidson.

Josh (00:17:25) - Now again, website That's l a b o Barry Labov. Again, you're the founder and owner. It's been great having this conversation. Thank you for the work that you do in the world.

Barry (00:17:38) - Josh thank you for the difference you're making out here. I love your program and I'm a big follower.

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